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EP205: REthinking Perfectionism - What type are you? Katherine Morgan Schafler

February 01, 20242 min read

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Where are my fellow control freaks? 

Such an interesting and way more helpful perspective to rethink and redefine perfectionism. You know when you read a book and it’s so groundbreaking and helpful, you can’t help but tell all your friends, post about it? Well, I was the recipient of essentially being attacked on all sides that I needed to read this award-winning book, The Perfectionists’ Guide to Losing Control by Katherine Morgan Schafler. Katherine is a seasoned psychotherapist and former in-house therapist for Google, with a BA in psychology from Berkeley and 2 masters from Columbia University and I’ve got her incredibly refreshing and game-changing approach broken down today. We talk about self-punishment vs. discipline. We talk about adaptive and maladaptive perfectionism and why restoration and resting feels like failure to perfectionists - and my favorite, control vs. power. I really am super excited for you to hear it and can't wait to hear what type of perfectionist are you!

Timestamps:

  • [00:10:01] Redefining Perfectionism 

  • [00:13:14] Gender bias in language.

  • [00:17:22] Perfectionism and power seeking.

  • [00:23:10] Five types of perfectionism.

  • [00:27:21] Parisian Perfectionists and Relationships.

  • [00:31:26] Knowing your type of perfectionism and collaborating with others

  • [00:34:10] Self-worth and self-esteem.

  • [00:39:03] Rethinking self-punishment and discipline.

  • [00:42:14] Emotional education and self-compassion.

  • [00:50:07] Resisting rest and restoration

  • [00:54:12] Restoring and emptying out.

  • [00:58:37] The Power of Play.

  • [01:02:07] Presence and Power.

  • [01:07:37] Gray rocking technique

Katherine Morgan Schafler - Guest Links:

The Perfectionists Guide to Losing Control - A Path to Peace and Power

What kind of Perfectionist are you? Take the Quiz

Katherine Morgan Schafler - IG

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